- a little bit of a format change. so far, you know, we're trying to take the feedback that we get and see how these live sessions are going. one thing we noticed is that there are a lot of people who go and watch this later on and aren't necessarily asinterested in the social stuff and the community aspects of the videos,
and it can become very confusing. so what we're trying to do is separate the stuff that has valueas a demo in it of itself from the social stuff. so, the beginning ofthis will basically be what it's always been. we'll go through a lot of projects, we'll talk about products,reviews, things like that. after it's all done we'lldo the demo portion.
so anytime i have somesort of demonstration to do that's gonna happen at the end and what we'll be able to do is excerpt that demoportion, i'll edit it down, make it look real nice,add some stuff to it and put that out later and put that in the podcastfeed and all that good stuff. so this way if you're just looking for instance, today's demowas about error repair,
fixing common mistakes, you don't want to have to sit through or sort of scan through a 40-minute video just to get to that, right? so you'll be able to find that easily because it's gonna beisolated from the live video. so hopefully that will be alittle bit easier for people but as far as you're concerned, if you're viewing this live right now
you're gonna get thewhole thing right now. we're just going to break it up later on. understood? all right, you wanna getover here girlfriend? - [nicole] yes. - okay. hi. - [nicole] hi.- [marc] what's up? you should stand on this side.
i like you on my left. it makes me feel better. - where's the? - this person's name with her. - okay, so the otherthing i wanted to mention, by the way this is my wife nicole. - hello. - [marc] my name is marc.- [nicole] yes. - [marc] we run a websitecalled the wood whisperer.
and this video, the live videos that we do sometimes create confusion and we get feedback onyoutube which is always great. you have to be carefulwith youtube feedback. but you get people saying things like, "where's the content?" that's my by the way, mygeneric internet guy voice. "where the content?" like that. - kinda like sound like jerry seinfeld.
- yeah, "what's with this video? "there's no grape nuts." so yeah, the bottom line is people are complaining or acouple people are complaining that there's no content. - they're not complainingthey're just like-- - no that's a complaint. -[nicole] all right.-[marc] it's a complaint. and they say you know, that'sit's all advertising, right?
though a couple said thatabout the advertising. well the things is what we're trying to do and by the way, no one'spaying for advertising space in this particular session. if i talk about a product a lot of people jump to conclusions when they see you mention a brand name. - [nicole[ yes.- [marc] you mention a brand and suddenly it's an ad.
- well, tv has trained us very well. - yeah, it's a not a product placement. i mean, it depends on your definition but they're not paying for that placement. i don't know how to talk about products without talking about brands. so if that bothers you, these are not the videosyou're looking for. (laughs)
move along, nothing to see here.- [nicole] move along. - [marc] all right, solet's jump right into the content here. so, giveaway winners from last month it was what, a clear vue cyclone. - yeah we gave away ... we are giving away or yeah right now.- [marc] we gave away. - [nicole] we gave away.
- it's already given. (laughs)- we already announced it because usually we like to time the announcement with the live session but the first friday of thismonth was a little longer and everybody was like, "who won, who won? "i got to know!" - who won, let's move it. - it was
-[marc] darren kylie?- [nicole] darren. - kylie. darren kylie.- [marc] darren kylie congratulations. (claps)and by the way, the cv1800 that's the cyclone i use in my shop. it is a big daddy five horsepower cyclone. i'm not gonna say what i said last time about breast monkeys. - but if you're wondering
i've already contacted darren so if you haven't heard fromme and he's responded back, so if you're like, "is that me?" no, that's not you. - yeah, the rule of the giveaways is if you haven't heard about it, like if you didn't getan e-mail you didn't win. we always e-mail before we even say anything publicly.- [nicole] always.
- [marc] okay, so nowthese month's giveaway it seems like we keep toppingourselves every month. this is great. you can announce it. - very excited to announce ifyou haven't seen it already, so it's already been out there. the powermatic 15-inch bandsaw. - it's so good. - it's awesome!
- this is almost $3,000 retail value. it's a 15-inch bandsaw so if you're used to thebandsaw market in general, a lot of times you've gotyour tabletop versions then you have your 14-inch bandsaws which are your entry levelfloor standing bandsaws. and then you get the big daddy bandsaws like anything over 14 inches tends to be in that bigger category.
this is 15 so it's kind of got a smaller compact size closer to the 14-inch, alittle bit more capacity but it's built like oneof the monster bandsaws like my 20-inch bandsaw over there. so, this is a really, really nice unit, almost $3,000 bucks and we'regiving one away for free. so, if you want to enter to win. (burps)
- and people win. i mean, just regular people. - is it unprofessional to do that? - yeah, a little. - thewoodwhisperer.com/giveway and very easy to enterand a lot of people ... like there's different ways you can enter so you can have up to what? seven entries.- [nicole] up to seven.
though you know, a lot of times when because it's a random, we use random.org with the system and it-- - [marc] random number generator.- [nicole] yeah. so it's just random. completely random.- [marc] everybody's got a chance to win even if you don't use all the services that allow you to get extra entries. a lot of the times we see who wins
and most of the time it's someone who has only one or two. - yeah. - so it is totally random. you have a real good chance to win. so thank you to powermatic, thank you clear vue previously for supplying the cyclone, but this month thanks powermatic
because that's an awesome bandsaw. - and i'll have anotherone to announce next month. - sweet. - [nicole] i keep getting awesome tools.- [marc] she says, "companies, give me something." - give me something to give away. - give me something. you have lots of money. give stuff away.
all right, thank you nicole. - bye. - enjoy your coffee. - thank you. - all right, let's jump into some news and announcements. you know what, i wasso busy talking to you, looking at you this whole time, mesmerized by your beauty
that i forgot to put upa picture of the bandsaw. (nicole laughs) so, there's the powermatic bandsaw that you could win andthe address as well, thewoodwhisperer.com/giveaway. (laughs) mesmerized bynicole's beauty and charm. all right, so let's get into some news, announcements and stuff. got an e-mail from nic corothers recently
who sent me a great picture of a woodworker's labor day barbeque. if you look really closely there you're gonna see not onlysome delicious hot sausages but he's sand shading in a pan of sand for some inlay that he's doing. i got to say that he's got my respect. way to go nic. thanks for sharing that with us.
how awesome is that, right? you got the grill on, why not? although i don't know. something would end up burning for me. i'm either gonna be soworried about the food that i forget about the woodin the sand and it burns, or the sausage is gonna burn because i'm worried aboutmy inlay, one or the other. you know what else is coming up here soon?
woodworking in america. that's, what is it? september ninth through the 14th and it is in winston-salem,north carolina. i just imagined a placejust everywhere you go it smells like cigarettes. is that true? i think they make winston-salem.- [nicole] winston. (laughs)
- [marc] i think that's wherethey make cigarettes, right? the whole place just smells like tobacco. anyway, more information atwoodworkinginamerica.com. you could still register and they also have a vendor floor. probably one of the coolestin terms of like vendors, one of the coolest collections of wood working vendors in one place that you'll ever have a chance to go to.
so definitely check it out. you can also get passes just to get into the vendor floor which i highly recommend if you don't want to do all the sessions you can at least take a look. and you know, a lot of these tools, especially the high end hand tools, we see them online
but you don't really geta chance to do hands on. well there's an opportunityto do it hands on before you drop a couplehundred bucks on something. get your hands on it,try it out for yourself. see if you like it. all righty, whoopsy. stupid ipad. go away keyboard. okay, another thing coming up
is the krenov cabinet build in the wood whisperer guild. that's our paid membership site. thewoodwhispererguild.com if you want more information on that. we started to buildtoday with a virtual tour where we take the sketch up drawing. it just kind of dissect it. look at the joints thatwe're gonna have to do
and look at the overall design and then next week we go into rough prep and rough lumber work. so, a really exciting project and i'll show you a little sneak preview of the work that's been done so far on this display cabinet, it's really nice if i say so myself. we also have another wood working event.
boy, do i have the date on here? yeah, september 26th through 28th in perth, ontario, canada. george sent this in. chris schwarz, tom fidgen and garrett hack are among some of the speakers, and you want to go towoodworksconference.com. here's some information for that. woodworksconference.com.
so if you're in that area of canada even if you're not in that area, it might be worth the trip because that sounds like a great event. lots of very talented andknowledgeable speakers at that one, it's awesome. another big thing we've got coming up is the bangle bowl. i haven't made an officialannouncement about this yet
but i guess that's what this is. bangle bowl 2014 is sort of the brainchild of our friend zac higgins and kyle toth and they both like making these bangles, like women's bangles. can a guy wear a bangle? - [nicole] yeah, why not? - [marc] generally speaking, it's just a piece of jewelry, right?
so it's kind of, you know, a nice big wooden bracelet and you can make them out of wood, you can make them with a metal core, you can make them out of like a resinous or a resin-impregnated material, but you basically areturning these things. so, they've been havingso much fun with them they decided to have a competition.
so there's all kinds ofprizes you could win, there's a guild membership we're gonna put up for grabs, and it's really their contest but i offered to host it at our website. so if you wanted more information on that we have everything up at the woodwhisperer.com/bangle-contest. - [nicole] what's the deadline?
- [marc] all the information's there. basically they're gonnabe accepting entries all throughout october, and then they're gonna havea judging period after that and they're very easy to make. like once you get the process down you can make a couple in a day, and i've got a treat later. a couple of the videosi'm gonna show you are
their how-to videos. some highlights on how youactually make these bangles. so if you want to get into turning i think this is a great entry point and even if you're experienced at turning you could probably knockout some really nice like segmented versions would be cool. you can also use thehashtag banglebowl2014 if you want to i guess put a submission up
or ask a question withregards to the competition. all right, let's jump in toour feature viewer project. every month we publish, i don't know, maybe there or four different projects over at the wood whisperer website. you could submit yourproject if you want to at thewoodwhisperer.com/submit and we can't accept every projects, we do have to kind offilter it a little bit
but we try to highlightsome of the cooler, more interesting projects out there. we have one here which ithought was very compelling and it's a rocking chairobviously as you could see. the person's name is jens. now i don't know if it's yens with a y sounding j or jens. so, my apologies if i'm mispronouncing it. here's what he had to say.
"this project was firstthought up by my father, "david olsen 30 years ago "when he went to a sam maloof workshop "and saw sam's sculpted rockers. "after the chair was modeled in 3d, "it was time to figure out "how to actually cutand machine the chair. "it probably took a month of prototyping "to get the cnc accurately
"cutting out each of the parts." now, did you catch what i just said there? cnc. it's not often that you'regonna see a maloof rocker, something in the maloof style that's generated from a cnc machine. i think what's interesting about this is it really does raise a lot of questions and that's why it's very
to me a very compelling project. so, i'm gonna talk a little bit and leave these images up there so you could see them. so, when you cut thingson a cnc, a lot of times, especially when you're talkingabout a sculpted rocker, your challenge is to make that piece not look mass manufactured, right? because, you know, there are limitations
in what the cnc machine can do. so, i think they did a great job of actually getting this thing and hopefully it's a pointwhere they knock them out in a certain amount of time that makes it worth all of the time they invested in the prototyping. but ultimately it needs some love by hand to make sure that thatpiece doesn't look like
it just popped out of a machine and looks like it actually had the hand, attention and love that you generally see on these sculpted rockers. he says, "it takes usabout a day and a half "to get the lumber milledand cut on the cnc. "after that, we cut thejoints for the back legs "using the table saw "because there's no easy way to do this,
"these precise compound cuts on the cnc. "then a couple of hours of final sanding, "and fitting and thechair's ready for assembly." off the cnc most parts are ready for a little bit of 220 sanding and then they just do the assembly. and they use the maloof oil poly, oil wax three coats in between. says, "it took us twomonths to get the design
"and the first one done, "but we can now produce two per week." people think about usingsomething like a cnc to do a more traditional project like that that typically is a sign of like the top level of craftsmanship as far as woodworkers are concerned. how do you feel about a machine doing most of that work for you?
is that a good thing, is that a bad thing? i wanna know. - [nicole] somebody's lagging very badly. like all, everyone, thevideo keeps freezing. - not a darn thing i could do about it. i wish i could. we have nothing to control lag on our end. - [nicole] on youtube. - like when i look atour stats in the player,
bandwidth is pegged out. meaning we have as much as we need, not pegged out in usage, there's plenty. and cpu usage is doing what it do. all right, we'll continue,we'll do the best we can. - [nicole] we can dropthe frame right now. - [marc] no.- [nicole] okay. - [marc] not in the middle of a session. - [nicole] okay.
- so all right. let's go into a couple of things that you may have missed. we call this in case you missed it. that's a very obvious name. a couple of videos here now. i mentioned the bracelets, the bangles in the competition that's coming up. kyle has a method formaking a segmented bracelet
and this is a lot like segmented vessels and things that you mightmake in larger format. well, this is just a small bracelet. great little video. you could see all thedetails on his website or on his youtube page. but let me show you a littleedited set of clips here. (relaxing music) - [kyle] so here's myfinished walnut bracelet.
it has five coats of oil on it. - really nice, definitelya nice little project. i love the way he put the pieces together with the rubber bands. a really sleek technique. i don't know. i might try to make one of these bangles and i think that might be the way that i go if i do try to make one.
nicole says, "yeah, give me some jewelry." all right, the next one here is from zac. i don't know if you guys know this but zac's been writing somearticles and doing interviews for us on the wood whisperer website. so if you ever see right under the title and we'll have the author. sometimes you'll see one by zac higgins. this is the guy.
zac is showing us how to make ... they sell metal cores, right? so you can actually put thewood around this metal core. you turn the wood and drop, like insert the metal from both sides and then continue to turn the wood to bring it down to thelevel it needs to be. so a really cool technique. you could buy these kits
and zac will tell you all about it. - all right, welcome to the how-to video on how to make a metal core bangle. (lively jazz music) not too bad but it'san interesting project. now they work great for quality gifts. i sell them so people love them. - awesome. so zac is using one of theresin-impregnated blanks
so it's stabilized. because if you just takea solid piece of wood and cut into that ring shape you may have problems down the line. so he's using the resin material. and the one kyle was doing is segmented. so by nature that oneactually might wind up being a little bit more stable if you don't use theresin-impregnated wood.
at least that's my assumption on it. but you could buy the blanks, you could buy the inserts and zac has all theresources you need for that if you're interested in it. and in fact, the guy whomakes the metal inserts i believe is having allthose inserts discounted during the period of the contest. so if people want to build along
and they want to do theone with the metal band on the inside, youcould buy a kit for that which is pretty cool. i forgot to mention kyle's website is woodbykyletoth.com and zac's website is nvwoodwerks.com but it's woodwerks with an e, w-e-r-k-s. final video clip here is david picciuto. you guys know him asthe drunken woodworker.
you've seen some of hisamazing bandsaw boxes, right? well, one of his latestboxes has this beautiful cnc inlaid drawer front on it, and this is a process. he goes through the whole process of how he makes the sandwiched with the plywood in the middle. really, really nice and elegant. a lot of people don't think you can
do a lot with plywood but like even here, i've got some baltic birch and i intentionally left the edge open because baltic birch hasso many fine layers to it that it actually looks prettycool when it's finished and i think david's box really gives you an example of why that is. check it out. - welcome to my channel.
i am david picciuto, the druken woodworker and today i'm gonna showyou how to make this beautiful little bandsaw box. this particular one ismade out of mexican ebony and it has a plywood core. this is one of those situations where the more clamps, the better. (machine buzzing) all right, so there's the drawer.
(lively music) (uptempo music) - yeah, baby. that thing is nice. you know, i've never made a bandsaw box. it's on my list one day but i've never embarked onthat particular journey. nicole, we've got to run over. we've got to take a road trip
to the other side of the shop here.- [nicole] okay. - [marc] we're gonna look at, well, it's not really a review so much as just kind of showing a newproduct that's out there. this is our gear up segment. let's just walk everything over. let me show you the newclear vue cyclone separator. - [nicole] better walk there. - bear with us if you're watching live.
we're gonna go for a walk. over to the miter saw over here. rolling, rolling, rolling. just down here. okay. you can move up a little bit. - [nicole] it's so hard to get. there you go. in fact, i'm gonna go down like this.
(groans) old man knees. i'm exaggerating. - [nicole] (laughs) okay. - okay, we're good. so, you may recall a whileago i did a shoot out of these cyclone separators and we'll probably link to the video if you want to go take a look at it. we reviewed three units.
the rockler dust vortex, the cv06 from clearvue and the dust deputy which you could see i've got back there. they all perform pretty well but it was pretty clear to me at the time that the dust deputy was the champ because it had the best separation and had no other problems with it. but ultimately the key was
how much dust makes itthrough this and into the vac. now if you're not familiarwith the purpose of a cyclone, there's no motor here. this is something thatgets added to a shop vac or a dust extractor of some sort. so what happens is you take the hose, the input right from the dust extractor, pop it into the top of this bad boy. the suction pulls through the cyclone
and then this end connects to your tool. either sander or inthis case my miter saw. so when the dust comes in it goes through the cyclone, the heavy stuff drops out and only the lighteststuff will go through into the vac itself which would be kept caught by your filters or your bag that's in there.
now the better these units are, the more effective theyare at the separation and you may get nothing. practically nothing at allgoing into the dust vac and that was kind of the performance level i had from the oneida. sadly, the mini cv06 didnot perform that well and there's a lot ofbackground information i'm not gonna go into in terms of
why their design didn't work properly but now they finallyhave the cone attached. you could see it looks verydifferent than the old one but it looks a lot like thecv1800, the big unit, right? this thing works flawlessly. really happy to see theperformance on this one. i like clear vue, i'm rooting for them, they're a sponsor of the show so i like to see them put out good product
because it's hard for me. it just makes me sad when i have to say bad thingsabout a company i like. but ultimately, thisthing works just awesome. so i've got this nowconnected to my dust extractor and over the course ofthe last couple of days i've done quite a bit of work just with the krenov cabinet. made a lot of cuts and there'sno dust in this at all.
all of the dust is living inside here. in fact if you want, i don'twant to keep it open too long because i really don't feellike breathing this stuff. as soon as i upset it,it will start to kick up. but if you can nicole zoom in down on this bucket so you could see what's actually in here. from the miter saw. - [nicole] very fine.
- [marc] yeah, very fine dust, right? and that's the stuff that alot of times would pass through and go right into the filter and clog up your vacuum system. in this case we're trapping it. we're trapping it wellbefore it even gets there. so that's that much lessof that dangerous fine dust hitting the vacuum filters or hitting the bag that's in there.
less chance of that stuff being exhausted into the shop environment. and here's the other thing. if you're cheap like me, one of the worst purchases, the purchases that i hate the most are for these disposable things or the consumables thingswe go through a lot. dust vac filter bags i hate buying them.
they're so expensive andif you do a lot of work you go through them very quickly. so you can conceivably havea filter on here for years before you actually ... i keep saying filter, a bag which actually acts like a filter too. but you can have the bag, the same bag on here for years before you need to replace it
because 99.9% of the stuffis going into this bucket and you just lift thebucket up, dump it out, bring it back, you're back in action. all right, so you could save. i mean it costs, the oneidaunit is about 100 bucks. this one is about 150. really if you think about long term that's a small investment considering how much thefilter bags cost, right?
so cyclone separator is a really good idea in your shop if you don'talready have one, okay? head back to the bench. i'll follow you. we're going this way, okay. walk with me. this is our sophisticated setup here. i might have to build like alittle shelf for the tripod. - [nicole] it's kind of a neat idea.
- just to hang the laptop off of it. let's bring it on back to the workbench. let me walk around you. tickle. walking in circles. all right. sorry about that. that's probably a little disorienting. it's disorienting.
so, i will be doing anupdate video on that cyclone so you could see a littlebit more closer action. i will in fact give it the same ... girlfriend. - [nicole] it's a little off, isn't it? - [marc] yeah it is. - [nicole] why is it off? that's why. - [marc] i'm gonna givethat cyclone the same
test parameters i did previously and you'll see how it performs and how it stacks up againstthe competition again. okay, that was gear up right. so let's look at thekrenov cabinet progress. this is fun stuff. i'm gonna bring it over to the bench. here is the core cabinet. all right, so this is akrenov-influenced design.
it's not a krenov design itself. definitely takes on some influence. we've got some really beautifuldovetails for the case. three dovetails at the top, at the bottom. all right, this shelf is just dadoed in and then we have a nice drawer. with a center mounted runner like this. pretty nice, huh? that puppy just slides in like so.
nice and smooth. curved shelves, curved drawer front and half blind dovetails on the side of the drawer, all right, and we pull it all the way out. you'll see we've got threedovetails in over here. now the whole cabinet itself is going to be held upby some really tall legs. it's a standing cabinet
and that's really kind of one of krenov's things that he's most famous for are his standing cabinetson these big beautiful legs. so you see we havemortises here ready to go and those will hold our legs in place. now i have a couple ofrough legs to show you. these guys are gonna be mounted like this. of course, that's in the way. roughly like that.
and there will be a shelfdown the bottom as well. so we'll have a lot offun cutting these out compound curves and then of course, we have to sculpt them because they're real angularand square at this point and ultimately we want them to have a little bit more of arounded look to them. so we have a substantialamount of hand work to get these down to the size
and the shape that we're looking for. all right, so lot of goodtechniques on this one. i'm excited about it and if you want to build along with it you can certainly do that at the woodwhispererguild.com. and there it is. this is, in case anyone wants to know this is a quarter sawn sycamore.
the material that we used has some really amazing grain on it that i'm quite fond of. besides i have some nice patterns too. it's good stuff. quarter sawn sycamore,the legs are walnut. it's one of those projects too where there's not a lot to it, you know, substance-wise it's just fourlegs and a standing cabinet
so it's one of those times we're using woods that really make a boldstatement in terms of grain. it's a good idea because you know, everything else is understated so let the wood speak and the wood becomes part of like the most impressive aspect of the project if you choose the wood wisely. all right, let's move intoa little bit of q and a.
what do you say, q and a? i may need a little bit ofcamera work on this, hun. i'm hoping that lag has calmed down. all right, so this is wherei get a little disorganized because i've got stuff all over the place. so if you have a question feel free to leave a question in the little chat room that's on youtube or you can use the chatroom on our live page,
thewoodwhisperer.com/live. we're only gonna be able totake a couple of questions. i've got some pre-selected here. so it pays when i asklike solicit question online ahead of time. that's the best time to get a question in because i choose the line share from that and then we grab a couple live as well. all right, so i've got acouple here pre-selected.
tom cocker asks, "how doyou keep your enthusiasm "up for a project when itbegins to run out of steam? "i'm so close to the endof a couple of big projects "but struggling to make myself finish. "any suggestions?" well, i guess it reallydepends on the reason for your lack of motivation, and i don't know what that reason is. you know, some peoplejust lose steam at the end
because they're justcompletely unmotivated by the project itself. the project is notexciting to them anymore or maybe they've reacheda point in the project that is not their favoritepart of the process. how many people get to the end and realize the only thing left to do is put on a coat of polyurethaneor shellac or whatever and that's where they stall.
why? because they don'treally like the process, they don't enjoy it. so if that's the reason that's a little bit more difficult. i can't make you love finishing other than to say practice it more, and the more you do it,the better you get at it. the more you're gonna appreciatethe results of your work
so you know that theend result requires you to get through thisstep, to push through it and it's totally worth it because the end resultis gonna look fantastic, and someone's gonna comeup to and go, "oh my gosh. "this is a beautiful pieceof furniture you've built." so that's one thing. now for me personallywhen i run out of steam, most of the time it maybe a motivational thing
but ultimately it comesdown to organization for me. i run out of steam when i feel inundated by having too many things going on at once or a project with toomany phases and stages that i can't see myway to the finish line. and that's the problem is you're so focused on the finish line that you lose sight ofwhat's right in front of you. and i've said this alot of times in the past
it comes down to making an outline and making a list. and i will print outoff of google calendar because analog for some reason works really well for me with the stuff. i print out my month's calendar and i break my tasksdown on a per day basis. so, if you're at the end of the project there's probably maybe two or three things
that you still need to do. put those on a schedule and it's amazing the mentalshift that takes place when you say i'm doing this tomorrow, i'm doing this the next day. you sort of feel, at leastme i feel more motivated to get that thing done. and really the reason is because i'm not worried aboutwhat i'm doing on friday.
i'm worried about whati'm gonna do on tuesday because it's tuesday. and then my sense of accomplishment at the end of the day is greater because i met my goal for that day. i'm not still far away from friday. i'm not thinking about friday. just think about the day that you're on and suddenly, the whole paradigm shifts
and you at least again, for me personally it just motivates me more. so that would be my suggestion. hopefully that will help you as well tom. - [nicole] or the pomodoro technique. - the who (mumbling). - [nicole] the pomodoro technique. - that sounds like adelicious italian meal. - well, if you google tomato timer
there's a technique calledthe pomodoro technique. - the pompadour technique? - [nicole] pomodoro.- [marc] is that a hairdo? - no, no, no. - no, isn't a pompadour a hairdo? - yeah, yeah but that'snot what i'm talking about. it's when you if you're having trouble and this applies to anything that you're havingtrouble getting started on
where you devote a specific amount of time so 20 minutes working on that task, solely on that task and then you take five off. and you do this ... it's actually a very well-known method to kind of get over the hump. - nice. the pompadour technique.- [nicole] no!
- [marc] give it a shot. (laughs) - just google tomato timer or pomodoro. - or pompadour. or veal scallopini. parmesan. okay, next question i'vegot here from brian. brian says he's thinking of going the hand plane route to mill wood instead of power tools.
don't do it. what kind of setup should i go with? meaning, recommending a couple of planes as a hand-tool newbie. that's a really good question. and i do have a recommendation for you. you guys know that idon't really mill stock from rough to finished with hand tools. but i can give you some perspective on it.
now, one of my favoritevideos that i've ever seen that kind of put handtools in a particular and very useful perspective for me was a chris schwarz titlecalled coarse, medium, fine. and in that, chris outlines how a lot like power tools, you've got your coarse milling tools, you've got your medium milling tools and then your fine milling tools.
the same thing appliesin hand tool woodworking. so you have to have ways to handle the wood at those different stages. so you don't need every number along the stanley number scale, right? truth is, you only needone plane for coarse work, one plane for medium work and one plane for fine work. so a lot of times what that recommendation
typically comes down to is the coarse work can be done, now keep in mind, there's coarse and there's like really coarse. so you may need a scrubplane or something. that's a plane usually with a narrow body and a very curved blade that will allow you to hog out a serious amount of material.
that's when you've got a board that's just not the right thickness and you need to reallyremove a lot of stock. there's a very scalloped surfaced though so it's a very, very rough tool. a lot of people can getaway with not having that just by buying their material pretty close to the dimension theywant it to be anyway. so from that point,now we're talking about
again, coarse, medium, fine. now this is a number five jack plane. you can tune up a jackplane for fairly rough cuts and you can use this todo the initial rough work. get all those high spots down. start to look for all the values and work anything that's too high. there's twist, you work the corners that are a little bit too high.
you've got a medium length plane here but something like this you're not really so much worried about flattening completely at this point. you're just kind of rough flattening. after that stage it really comes down to getting a nice flat surface and straight surfaces, and that's where a nice long
plane body like this comes in handy. this is a number seven. a number eight is a little bit bigger but this will work to give you nice, long straightaway cuts. and that's why the sole is so long because you have to be able to ignore the low and the high values and just kind of skate over the top
and skim anything that'stoo high off of the surface. all right, that's the number seven. that's what you wouldconsider your medium, and then you've got a smooth plane, and this is your fine work, right? this is finish preparation essentially. so once the surface isnice and flat and even, you can use a smooth plane to do the final smoothing
to make it ready for finish, all right? and you've got coarse, medium, fine. those three will probably be the initial set that willget you the furthest. there's a lot ofvariations of these three. you could, maybe you don'thave the number five, maybe you do want to scrub plane there. excuse me. maybe instead of a number four smoother
you could substitute in some of the other size smoothers. here's another perspective on it. if you're really justgetting your feet wet jack planes are great, especially a low angle jack plane and i talk about thisbad boy all the time. while it isn't necessarily as good as having all three of these,
you can actually do most of these jobs with this one plane if you wanted to. you can get a coupledifferent irons for it with different angles. you could perhaps some that are cambered, meaning having a littlebit of curve on them. so have a cambered version and then stick that bladeout a little bit further and now you're doingmore rough work with it.
so you can get a lotdone with a jack plane and especially thislow angled jack version is one of my favorites. and frankly because i have this my need for these three hasgone down significantly. but i don't do what you're talking about, milling from raw stock. so this is a reflection ofthe type of work that i do and the type of tools that ihave in my shop, all right?
so again, coarse, medium, fine. chris schwarz is definitelya good place to go. and let me just get this big boy in here. move on to the next question. next is from russel, our good buddy russel who'shere in the phoenix area. russel says, "i was wondering." nope, wrong one. he says, "how much do you tell clients
"about wood movement? "do you educate them,give them a quick warning "or leave them to experiencethe wonder themselves?" i think it's a great question. you know, even if youdon't sell your work now, ultimately at some point you will be giving somethingyou made to someone or selling it for a low price, and the person is going to
at some point or another most likely experience the wonders of wood movement. so, how much do you prepare people for it? well when it comes to selling, you know, client relationship, it's a matter of disclosureand expectations. so it's i think it's incredibly important for you to let them know ahead of time almost as a sort of expression
of what kind of warranty you're gonna be able to give the product to say that this is a natural product, it's going to move. i tried in my design of this product to minimize the effects of wood movement and hopefully that'sexactly what you're doing. if it's a real small piece it may not even be a factor
but ultimately if you builda big piece, breadboard it, you know, nice table with breadboard ends, you have to make surethey know what to expect because you don't wantto get that frantic call that says, "oh my gosh! "you know, this thing was even before "and now it's not even anymore." that's not the time to breakit to them that wood moves. so, i think it's absolutelyimportant ahead of time
to educate the customer at the level that they can understand it. sometimes too much informationcan be overwhelming and they just kind of shut you off and maybe they realize that, oh maybe i don't wantto work with this person because they're warning me about all this wood movement, but you have to givethem some information.
and generally for me, anytime i've worked with someone that just comes in the form of explaining here where we have potentialwood movement issues, someday you may see this edge isn't as smooth as it once was. you may feel this glueline later on down the road but embrace it because it's wood, it's a natural product.
that's why you're comingto me for this product because you want someonewho can handcraft it, and if you want that here's the baggage thatcomes along with it. i mean, put a more positivespin on it than that but you do, i feel, have to let them know 100% upfront so thatyou aren't called back and made to be a bad woodworker. you don't want them to get mad at you.
let's see, next questionhere is from mike pickering. he says, "i'm wondering if you," you're gonna love this one nicole. "i'm wondering if you, aka, your wife, "have a tool budget." i'll let you know right now, nicole does not have a tool budget. "primarily if you get a certain percentage "of gross profits toput back into the shop
"or a certain percentage of net "or a set dollar amount. "or if you just wear down the wife "until she gives in andlets you get a new toy." i think what he's askingis what is my allowance? do i have an allowance? well, here's the thing. i know everyone's relationship dynamic with their significant other is different.
so, my situation certainly is not going to apply to everybody. but here's the history. when i first started woodworking and i was working in biotech, we were living off of credit cards. we were both making stupid choices when it came to our debt and at that time, we really kind of--
- [nicole] bad at both. - yeah, nicole was actually the problem (laughs)at that point, right? because i would say, "i just saw norm "use this biscuit joinerthing, that looks really cool." and a couple days later i would find a biscuit joiner in my shop, my garage at the time. and so, nicole's a littlebit of a rare breed
in that sense where shewas part of the problem. now that was then of course and we've gotten, have since gotten rid of all of our credit cards except for the mostessential emergency ones. so now it is more of abudget conscious decision but here's the thing, this is a business. so as a business, nicole knows that i've got a good head on my shoulders
and i don't just buy stuff because i've got nothing better to do. i've earned trust and there'sa two-way trust between us about how it concerns money, and i hope everyone hasthat in their relationship. so there is no wearing down needed. when it comes to tools honestly there's no conversation needed. if i need a tool or want a tool
because i think it's good for the business or it would make it happy,i go out and buy it. again, it's the reflection of the fact that this is a business and not just a hobby for me. do you have any perspective on this? - a little bit. i will say early on, when we bought our first home,
i really wanted you todo a lot of projects. so, i-- - [marc] here's atablesaw, put in a floor. - [nicole] that's kind of what i ... i looked at, it was almost like a little well, i bought you thistool you got to use it now. - yeah, obligating me toget this jobs done, right? - mm-hmm. it worked! - it did.
and then you flipped it on me. you were like, "well, if you want ... " and you started going, "well, if you want me to do this."- [marc] yeah. that's right, i learned.- [nicole] i need this biscuit, i need this biscuit joiner.- [marc] i forgot about that. - well, if i'm gonna dothis i need this tool. yeah and the thing is at the time honestly, you were the breadwinner.
so you had a little bit more ... you know, we always keptseparate bank accounts early on but she had a little bit more-- - flexibility. - you had a little more power in terms of the finances than i did. when you make twice as much as-- - and i like doing nice things for you. so, i don't know.- [marc] but the thing is
now it's a totally different situation. and to be frank, youguys have seen my shop. there isn't a whole lot at this point. i'm over 10 years intothe woodworking scene. i've got just abouteverything i actually need. so most of the time when product comes in it's an upgrade for something else or maybe it's a review that i'm doing, and i may not even use the product.
i actually don't really buystuff very often anyway. - i will say that if you play the card, "honey, i will build youthis if i can get this tool," you better follow through. i'm just warning you. - it may not always work. - if you don't follow through you've pretty much demolished that - [marc] that won't work anymore.- [nicole] line of
i guess, the argumentfor any future purchase. - that tactic is dead. so, if you're gonna buy a tool and you convince her toget it, you know, a tool and you say, "i'm gonnabuild you a bookcase." - build that bookcase. - the faster you can do it the better because then it's just amatter of then you can ... you did an article, build vs buy.
- yeah, yeah, yeah, thebuild or buy worksheet. - marc and then we haveit on the website too so it's a little kind of checklist of should you build or buy a particular piece of furniture. so that's print that you could show. - yeah, this says i should build this- [nicole] it says i need to build it. so i need this tool to do it.
yeah, and you know whatelse works really well? get the new tool, bring it into the shop, cover it with dust and hopefully they won'tnotice that it's there. i like that method. all right, let's go to one more question. i forgot to move that down. look at that. it's almost like i'm topless.
hey boys. terry has a question here. "i want to carve a name into a project "and i'd like to stain the name dark, "but not have the restof the project stained. "so, how do i do that?" it's a great question and i have a prop. i've got a prop to use. nicole, i probably need you on the camera.
let me get a sander ready here and i'll show you a quick technique. (machine buzzing loudly) (popping) - get a shot close down here. now, i don't mean to brag but i am kind of an expert carver. (giggles) give them moreof a closeup of that. - [nicole] you might want to make sure
they know you're joking. - [marc] if they don't know i'm joking they somehow ended up inthe wrong place today. i don't mean to brag but that is, that's a letter m and i did that by hand. there's no template for that. you see what this is? - [nicole] did you end?
are we going into demo now? - [marc] no. - [marc] no, we're still in the appetizer. - [marc] the real meat's on its way. catering this event. all right, so if you can come in closer, i need more of a top down on this. so they can actually see, there you go. all right, so what i did here
i've got a piece of maple and i've carved some very elegant-looking, high quality letters. watch out mary may, i'm coming for you. (nicole giggles) i'll be guesting on the marymay school of carving soon. basically i just did this so you could see the effect here so, obviously, all i know howto do are m's and o's,
and this actually is a vwith a circle on the top. here's the technique. if you shellac the surface or lacquer, i wouldn't use an oil-based finish because oil-base finishes take too long to dry for this process. i want something thatdries on top of the wood, doesn't absorb too deep, dries quickly because i want to add a couple of coats
and move on with the work. this side is uncoated,this side has the shellac. so the idea is bypre-coating the material, you could then do your carving, come back and stain, and then you could see what i did was i put the stain into the letter, not very careful about it, wiped off the excess,wiped off the excess.
i did the same thing overhere but you could see, obviously we get a lotmore stain penetration. now once your carving is done you can go back and sand off the shellac and the stain stays inthe deep pockets there. all right, so i'm gonnaactually sand this real quick. shouldn't be too noisy and lets look at the result. i'm gonna focus more onthe shellac side of things.
hope it doesn't mess upmy beautiful lettering. i'm gonna carve you a sign later. - [nicole] thanks. - [marc] what could we connect here? i just wanted to sand a little bit so that you can get the idea. i sanded over both of these surfaces approximately the same amount of time. look how clean this is
and look how dirty that still is. so we would have to removea substantial amount of wood to be able to get all of that stain out which makes it very hard. i mean, you couldcertainly use a paintbrush or something to get in there, but that's just too much work. i'd rather slather it with stain, wipe the excess off andthen be able to sand.
so here of course, if you don'tlike the shellac on there, sand a little bit more and you'll get that finish off. but if anything, most of the time i like to pre-seal withshellac anyway, all right? so give it a light sanding, when the stain is gone stop and then you could startwith your final top coat, whatever you want,
but look how nice and clean that is now. i should probably teachpeople how you make this one side fatter than the other. and also the technique of not quite being at the right angle. it's nice, right? (laughs) all right. yeah. mary may does have anexcellent carving school.
i think i need to talk to her about getting myself a little membership. because i'm terrible. i actually can do a little bit of carving. i've just never really. - [nicole] practiced. - practiced very much and that was not a real attempt, that wasdone in about 30 seconds. and that's my storyand i'm sticking to it.
okay, so here's the deal. do we have any other live questions? that was my pre-selected questions. we can do a couple of live questions but i still have a demo to do on repairing mistakes. so stick around for that and i don't want to be here all day. it's already been an hour almost.
- [nicole] yeah. - let's pick two questions. - [nicole] i don't know howto give you these questions. - gmail. - if you want just read it. - [nicole] okay, so jared wants to know why are power jointers calledjointers slash planers? it just seems like theyare different items. is it possible to usea jointer as a planer
and it works? - well, power jointersat least in the u.s. to my knowledge are notcalled jointer planers. the jointer is the jointer. that's the long bed unit where you're running the wood over it and the planer is the planer. now i know overseas they have some different terminology.
so it just is like anything else. sometimes we give things dumb names for historical reasons that don't quite make asmuch sense to use nowadays but we still use them. so i don't know enough about the history as to why internationally itmight be called one thing. well, i know why. because in the u.s. we like to do things
you know, our own waybecause it's america. but honestly, that's areally good question. i would love someone who has a more historicalperspective on it to give us an answer towhy they call it that. but at least in the states, jointers are typicallyjust sold as jointers. if you see somethingsold as a jointer planer most of the time that's a combo machine
that actually can beconverted to do planing as well as jointing. i totally agree, it canget pretty confusing. s smith wants to know if i have a preference for doweling jigs. there's quite a few low budget doweling jigs on the market. you could even make yourown if you wanted to. if you're using wood,the wood can get worn out
so i've made doweling jigs that are kind of disposablefor a particular project. but if you're looking for one that's more permanent solution, dowelmax is probably one ofthe best ones on the market. there's a couple other decent ones too, i don't remember the names of those but dowelmax sticks in my head. it's the one i've had some experience with
and man is that a reallywell-designed nice jig. it's expensive too. that's the thing, that'sthe hardest thing about it. so there are a bunch of lower budget ones. i can't even tell you thedifferences between them. i've used a couple. there's like a round one where you could turn different things and ultimately, you just got to be able to
secure it to the workpiece nice and consistently so you could, you know,put a whole in one piece then put a whole on your joining piece in the same location. even the most basic onescan accomplish that goal. you just might not haveas much of a fancy setup or as easy setup as you might have with something like the dowelmax. impact vector.
from the chat room. what's the ideal tool for dust collection on a compound miter saw? it's gonna depend on the saw. if you have the kapexstandard dust extractor works really well. even a shop vac will work well. dust collection on a miter saw more seems to come down to the saw itself
as opposed to whichcollector is attached to it. a lot of them have like zerodust collection capability so you'll see peoplebuild those big shrouds and then hook up a fullscale four inch hose to it with a big dust collector or a cyclone to try to capture as much as that. as much of the airborne dust as possible. i don't really like that method. if you can get a saw and i know
there are brands that actually have, it may not be as effectiveas the design on the kapex but it still works pretty well. the thing is you really want to collect that dust at the source. if you let that dust go airborne it just becomesexponentially more difficult to capture it with a cone than if you were ableto kind of capture it
right at the source, and i think that's what i think festool did really, really well was having good dust collection that transfers a lot of the suction right behind the blade, and then the key to it working really well is this rubber fixture that they have right behind the blade,
a flexible rubber so itworks over a workpiece but it essentially cupsand directs the suction and directs the wood chipsright into that area. so it's incredibly effective and i hope all miter sawcompanies could see that and start to adopt that, and incorporate better dust collection because by the time you'recollecting it in that shroud it's an uphill battle.
collect it at the source and you don't need nearly as powerful of a machine to do it. standard shop vac will do the trick. donald dean. can you put lacquer over an oil or oil varnish mix? yes, you can. if the oil or oil varnishmix is completely cured
you will have your best results because the lacquer just, you know, will have no problem forthe most part binding to it. but be careful because someof those oil-based mixtures have a very long cure time. things like shellac and lacquer because of the type offinish that they are and the way that they cure, i've even in a rush put them over
surfaces that aren't completely cured. people will take shellac and put it over, let's say they do an oil varnish blend and it's just stickyafter a couple of days because maybe they put too much on or too many coats, and they want to switch tosome other type of finish. they'll put something like shellac. a couple layers ofshellac to seal that in.
now it's not the greatest thing to do but it can work, all right? so usually when you're switching over to that type of finish to solve a problem, you can seal that uncured finish in. not a great idea but it can be done. so if you let this stuff cure you should really have no major issues switching over to lacquer.
but always test onscraps just to make sure but it can be done. all right, last questionbefore the demo, okay? - obi-wan kenobi, i love it. do you use kreg jigs ordo you make your own? is that my only two choices? is there a neither option? i have a kreg jig. i keep it right overthere in my little thingy,
turn style thingy. i don't use pocket screwsall that much in my work. there are times where a pocket screw really is the best choice for a particular application. and that doesn't come offvery often in my work. so i have a kreg jig. i think kreg makes one of the best ones if not the best one out there.
clearly the name that's known for it. you can't think of pocket screws without thinking about kreg. so they make some good products. so if you're in the market, that would be the firstplace i would look. i mean, i guess you could build your own but some of the entry level kreg kits are pretty affordable andthey work really well.
- [nicole] well, when customers wanted to get the price down. remember? - yeah, that was a time when i was buildingfurniture for a living, as a woodworking business i would use my pocket hole jig a lot more often because there's ... in that case you'resolving a lot of problems.
you're trying to get to a price point where using traditional joinery may not be something that can get you there. at the same time, you have to make sure the client is aware of what you're doing, and sometimes a client may see screws and not be so happy with it depending on their knowledge base about what you're doing.
and a lot of times people whocome to custom woodworkers they know just enough to be dangerous and they come at you withcertain expectations, sometimes unrealistic expectations especially when it comes to price and what they're getting for that money. so sometimes a pocketscrew can be a really good alternative choice.- [nicole] last one. - [marc] last one.
magins woodshop, i like that. sounds like a good place to go to get a nice beer. a nice pint of ale. and don't woodworks afterwards though. what's a good method to check bandsaw wheel alignment? i have one i restored and no matter where iset the top wheel angle
the bottom won't stay center. you know, well here's the thing. generally speaking youcan take the cabinets, like open the cabinet doors, if you can even remove the table that will be very helpful. sometimes you could just unbolt the table. because what you want to do is get a straight edge in there
and see if those wheels are co-planar. sometimes you need to shim them out so you can actually geta washer of some sort like a fender washer or something, put that in the one that's offending and just try to make sure they're in alignment with one another. that way if they're starting off in alignment with one another
when you start to tiltthe angle a little bit, you know you'll be in pretty good shape. now that said, if itisn't perfectly centered what i would be focused on more, i mean unless the bladeis tracking and moving or it's really, really close to the edge of that bottom wheel those are the two situations i'd be really worried about it.
but if it's tracking straight and it isn't moving and it's centered on the top wheel, but it's just a littleoff center on the bottom, cut something. see how it cuts. is it moving when you cut it? is there something youneed to be concerned about? is it cutting straight?
if it still cuts and it's just slightlyoff center on the bottom i don't know that i wouldworry about it that much. so, see if the work itself causes any additional issues. if you see a result that you don't like or it feels unstable or unsafe then dig a lot deeper ifthe initial adjustments don't get you where you need to be.
but i don't know that i would be excessively worried aboutthat on the bottom wheel. yeah, test it out and see but again, shims may be the way. using washers as shimsto push the wheels out to get them in sort of the same plane. we're good? - all right. - [nicole] you're gonna wrap it up?
- yeah, let's wrap it up. slide on over here girl. so that should wrap itup for the live show. you know, the next show is gonna be october third, 1 pm. - october, it's fall. - i know. i'm so looking forward to the fall. the air conditioners havebeen running constantly.
i'm just so sick of airconditioned air at this point. i want to open a window. - i can't wait. - right? yeah, next show october third. join us, it's gonna be a good one. friday as usual. same time.- [nicole] first friday every month. - [marc] yeah, first friday of every month
is what we're aiming for. contact info thewoodwhisperer.com is where you could find lots of great, free plans and videos and articles and all kinds of fun stuff. also archives of thelive sessions like this, you'll find them there. facebook.com/thewoodwhisperer. i have a little contactdilly that i could put up.
look at this. boom baby! - boom baby! - also on twitter @woodwhisperer and then if you have a question anytime, not a lot of people areusing it but it's there. twwlive with a hashtag is where you can just send us a quick question, and a lot of times if you do that
because not many peopleare using it, i notice it and it gets put in to the queue and then i can answer it next time. - and i know that there were a number of people in the chat room, thanks for hanging out with me by the way. i'm in the chat room aswe're recording this live. there were a number of people that had questions about the guild
and specifics about that. so, if you head on overto the woodwhisperer.com or no, it's just wood whisperer. - thewoodwhispererguild.com. - guild.com if you go into the additional details there's actually a little chat option that you can e-mail medirectly through that. so if you have questions
i'm more than happy toanswer anyone's questions about the projects, how it works, and all that fun stuff. - and you know what, after the demo if anyone has anyquestions about the guild or anything else i'll stayfor a few more minutes. here's the thing. we're gonna close this off right now. so thank you for watching everybody
and if you're watching live stick around because we're moving into the next segment which is a demo. - demo - the demo is on fixing mistakes so i'm gonna dive into that a little bit. it won't take very long, it's a short demo but it's kind of an add-on thing. if you're looking forthis demo after the fact
we're gonna actuallycut off this live video. - put a link to it. - and then we'll link to a re sort of edited reproduced version so you can really get more detail about fixing mistakes, all right? so, stick around. nicole, i'm gonna need youat the camera for this, for the most part.