marc - alright, hello hello. happy friday and good morning to you. i've got my coffee. this is one of things where again i'm paying attention toa specific chat room. we're broadcasting on facebook and youtube and i can only look at oneso i'm looking at youtube because the chat is alittle more robust there
and easier for me to follow. but today is actually going to be mostly showing you a couple of things i'm on a very tighttime table this morning because we're having anopen house in about an hour so i've got about a halfhour to get this done. so let's do some technology here. set timer for 30 minutes. - [siri] for how long?
- [marc] i said 30 minutes. - [siri] okay, 30 minutes and counting. - so, i know i can't be the only one that when you're usingvoice recognition software, things like this, and they ask you questions you sort of cop an attitude with them when they don't hear you properly. i can't be the only one that does that.
so between siri and alexa, i wanna punch them both in the head. actually, mine's a dude on my phone. alright, so what up what up. alright, so i've got acouple of things to go over real quick, sort of house keeping stuff. hope you guys are enjoyingthis every friday thing. i'm gonna try to get more consistent about the time of day that i do this
so you know what to expect. oh no, we need supplemental lighting. we can't have a show withoutsupplemental lighting. that's better, okay. so, what the heck was i saying. okay yeah, so... totally lost my train of thought, we're talking about friday, yeah, i'm trying to be moreconsistent on the time of day
and hopefully thisworks out for everybody. i'm trying to do it morning specific but like probably beforelunchtime on the east coast. so let's get into the stuff. got some cool stuff to show you, so ya, i did mention an open house, we are selling our home, itseems to come up every week now. so we're, y'know, doingan open house thing today. real quick, i was told by my family,
that i don't mention this enough. i don't know if you know about this, if you're new to the show you might not, but probably about two years ago now, i wrote a book, spent about six monthsworking on this badboy, taking every pictureand writing every word. it's hybrid woodworking, and it's my favorite way to cut wood
and make projects. it's 196 pages, youcan it at twwstore.com. here's a quick preview for free, ready? you like that, there you go. so if you wanna go pick that up you can do that all ofthe copies that we sell are autographed and youget a free video with it that shows you some cool stuff. alright, so that's that,let's see what else.
convertible bench video,that came out today, so we released it thismorning, another project, the sort of honda saturdayprojects thing that we're doing. so it's another projectin partnership with honda and it's a good one. it's a convertible bench,it's not my design, it's something that wasinspired by european designs and having a discussion withsomeone on facebook about it because they're tellingme of a specific person
who is the actual original maker and i don't know forsure that that's the case so i need to research it a little bit more and i'd love to give credit, but it's one of those thingsthat i keep looking into it and finding dead ends and websites that don't work and i can't find anyonewho actually claims to be the original designer of it.
so, y'know, i wanna attributecredit when possible but i can't find exactly who did it. so hey, if you know the original maker and you can prove that that'snot a copy of the original and someone else just selling it, please let me know, put a comment below and i'll put thatcorrection in the write-up. had a visitor the other day, eric from, what are they called.
let's see, their youtube pageis old ave or old ave 100, it's one of those wordsthat's hard to figure out what they were trying to say. but anyway, eric, real cool dude, makes amazing router signs, he stopped by with his wife vicky, what a great bunch of people. so they brought me this sign, i'll show it to you in a second,
but the channel if you wannacheck this guy out and his dad they make some reallygood entertaining content, youtube.com/oldave100, iguess it's old dave 100 and dave i believe is his dad, and you can also lookat makeawoodsign.com. now check this out. what do you think of that. right, does it get better than that? someone takes your logo andthrows it on a hunk of redwood.
it just looks gorgeousand he told me this is redwood throughout, but it's hardened sapwood that he's getting thatstriped effect with. cool shape and hand routed. absolutely fabulous, so once again, thanks so much eric forcoming out to the shop, hanging out with me for a little bit, it was great meeting you and vicky,
and you know what, go overto eric's youtube page and give him a subscribe, i'msure he'd appreciate that. here hold on a second, i'm gonna treat you guys to a little something something here. (ocarina music) you're welcome. alright, next up, i'm building a box. that's the next project tocome out on the free site.
i'm gonna try to squeeze this one out probably next week sometime. so years ago, i've .made abunch of these little boxes, back in the day when iwas on the wwa forum. geez this was like 2004 maybe, 2005, and there was a gentleman there who was a just absolutelyinspirational box maker and i've lost touch with the guy i don't even know whathe's doing these days,
his name was dave nipfur and he would post these reallygreat amazing boxes on legs. absolutely gorgeous, likelittle mini chests of drawers and i can't remember if thiswas specifically his design, if not, it was certainlyinspired by his work, but it's a very basic little jewelry box, you sort of hollow out the inside, put a little felt on the bottom, you've got these little legs,
so it is a small project,but it is a fine project. it's one that uses theselittle barrel hinges here, where are my loose ones... little tiny guys, lookat them, five millimeter, miniature barrel hinges, and you have to be very precise about how you locate thosehinges to get it to work. so this will all be onthe free site very soon. i've even got some testpieces rolling here
because it's been over adecade since i've made that so i wanna make sure i geteverything precisely aligned for the projects. so great use of scraps, and not just your typical tiny box project it's actually, y'know, fairly,i won't say complicated, but you have to be careful, it's very exact in works. so i think you guys aregoing to enjoy that.
and, i got some flocking, what the flock. right, flocking, youknow what that is right, it's like that littlesuede powder material, so basically put theadhesive on the bottom, spray this crap on top of it, and it sticks to it andthen you have a really nice built in sort of soft bottomfor jewelry to rest on. in fact, i think picciuto,on make something, did at least one video i know,
he has shown the flocking process. i've never done flocking. in the past i would tape the veneer back, or the adhesive backedsuede and felt sheets and cut them to sizeand put that in there. so i might have to go check out his video and just see if i understand the concept it's not that difficult but i'm sure there's alot of tips and tricks
once you do it a few times you know. so i'll go check that one out. let's see, what else. okay, we're talkingabout that box project, one of the cool things aboutdoing the live session this way is the fact that i can do a screen cast from the computer over here so bare with me for a second. we'll do a little screen cast.
hi, i'm marc, and i do screen casts. okay, you don't need to see that. so this is what i wasthinking for this box project. now the original is this design here. right here, basic square box, the sides would be nice and square, here's the lid in the back. just a nice flat lid. that's the basic one,
and i'm thinking, y'know,anytime i revisit an old design, i really like to dosomething different with it and y'know, something that reflects my... i guess you could say mynew design sensibilities, my new techniques,things that i can do now that i might not have beenable to pull off later. okay, so as i work out allthe foundation stuff here with the joinery, then i thought, well why not do somethingcooler with the lid?
so one of the versions i'm gonna do uses a slightly thicker lid to start with but then you wind up using a hand plane to round over the top like this and you can create asimilar curve in the sides that echoes that curvature. right, so it gives italmost a coopered look. but essentially,fundamentally, you can see it's really the same thing,it's just got this curved top
which is gonna be super easy to make with a sharp hand plane, okay. so where it gets alittle bit finicky again, those hinges, we talked about those, and then this joinery. i can't remember exactlywhat i did on the last one but i figured an integral tenon is probably the easiest way to go. so the tenon is actuallypart of the box center.
then all we have to dois make a little mortise on the side piece like this and that should go together fairly nicely. alright, so good joinery, goodhardware, good techniques, all in a very very tiny package. there you go. screen casts, gotta love 'em. alright, so, i am, likei mentioned before, that's pretty much all iwanted to show you guys
as far as like quick demonstration and stuff that i had on my plate. any q and a we can do that right now, but i only have, 15 minutes, 10 or 15minutes to do the q and a. so let's get to it, see what's going on. ocarina, zelda forever. yeah, if anyone doesn'tknow, this is an ocarina, if someone knows the name of the company,
i can't remember theirname and it's not on it, there's a company that makes these, and they do like a huge variety of them. they're absolutely gorgeous,i got this at a comic con but you can buy them on their website. it's like slt ocarinas,does that make sense? slt? you guys know who itis, somebody put a link in the chat if you can
because i'd like togive them credit for it. but this, this i thoughtwas just gorgeous. it's been on the back wallforever if you look in videos you might see it there. alright, let's get to some questions. gonna back up in the chat here. where are we moving to? we're looking at the denver area. i set off somebody'salexa, sorry about that.
alexa, tell me a knock knock joke. that's my son's favoritething to do with the echo. okay... what height are most ofthe tables in your shop? let's find out. my work bench is... just under 35, it's about34 and three quarters and i guess the rule of thumb, at least this is what i've been told
is when you stand next to the work bench you want to put your hand flat on the top and you just want aslight bend at your elbow and for your height that would be roughlyyour ideal working height. so that's the work bench. behind me we've got a regular cabinet that's sitting at about... 35 and a half inches.
honestly, most of this stuff you could probably find a happy medium for all of your work surfaces and try to get them all to the same number and this way, if you have anything you need a little extra support for you know all of yourstuff is the same height, it's probably a really smart way to kind of master design the whole thing.
jack hughes asks if i'veconsidered building a log cabin. there's a simple answer tothat one and it would be no. i have not. where have you locatedwasted space in your shop, andrew linch wants to know. if there is wasted space, it's towards the back, y'know, that's why there's a drum set back there. and i'm able to store, andagain, it's not wasted,
i filled it with stuff, a lot of the t-shirts,books, things, overstock and thing for our, y'know,merchandise that we sell, that's all stored back there as well. thank you, i'm glad everybodylikes the bench project that just came out today. that was a fun one, littletedious, but y'know, it was fun. i think i might have tostart doing like a faq for these live sessions
because i'm getting a lot... i see a lot of the samequestions each week so i wanna be able toanswer those questions but not repeat myself every week. anthony baddle says "did you quit your job to start woodworking full time, and if so, was it hard to do?". yes i did, yes it was. if you go to the woodwhisperer.com/about
you'll get more informationon my history, my story. i've done a couple of interviews too that go into excessivedetail on my history if you're really interested. alright, what else we got here. ya, i was right, okay so not slt, it's stl ocarina, thankyou, thanks for that justin. kenneth anderson says "hopeyou're well", i am thank you, "how does one decide whatsize table saw they need,
can a person get any cheap mid range one and just make sides to make the working surface area larger?". absolutely. i've seen amazing plansfor portable job sized saws that surround the saw on thesides and the alfied side and just make this huge table out of it. now, there's nothing you can really do to make the saw more powerful
so you certainly want tohave a thin curved blade you don't want to overtaxthe saw for what it can do but you can definitely beef upeverything that supports it. so you don't necessarilyneed the full hardcore three horsepower, fivehorsepower cabinet saw, you can get away withless, but just understand, there are limitations to those saws and what you can do with them. they're not necessarilygoing to plow through
a quarter bubinga, y'know, and hard maple, and certain hardwoods aregonna be a little bit tricky for those to pull off withouta little bit of burning, alright, and strain. so it just depends onthe kind of work you do, how frequently you're cuttingsuper thick materials, but for a lot of people, ithink it would be just fine, and having that extrasupport of work surface is gonna be key, cause thenyou don't have your pieces
flopping around, so you kinda, you don't have all the disadvantages that typically comewith those portable saws in terms of stability. the ox in the shop wants to know if anyone is going to iwf next week in atlanta. i am not going, i haven't beento one of the big trade shows in years. it just feels like there's less
and less reason to go all the time, just, it's the classic thing acrossall times of industries where the internet, in general, has done significantdamage to trade shows. it's difficult for companies to justify spending all that money for a booth when they can do theirown promotional events much cheaper and hit theirtarget audience much easier. so i think in the tool world,
suffering the same sort of situation, i think it's gotten a little better in the last couple of years but, y'know, we stopped going because attendance was really low. they were focusing deep onlike deep industry stuff, very very large manufacturing tools and there wasn't as much for you know, people like you and me
who use a lot of smallmore portable stuff, so y'know, either way, ithink carmona is going. i believe his new sponsortriton is bringing him out so he can hang out at thebooth in a bathing suit. people can come by andtake pictures with him and give him a kiss on the cheek, all that fun stuff. bill ellis has a great question he says "marc, i lost myfavorite tape measure,
where did i put it, builtnew shelves in the shop so i could clean up and find it and still haven't, any ideas?". absolutely bill, it's gonnabe in the last place you look so just keep that in mind. davis wood says "last week yourecommended a marine finish for the barbecue cart,would you recommend the same for the convertiblebench you built today?". yes, if you're putting it outside
i would definitelyrecommend a marine varnish. some type of spar urethane, something that's more protected if you're putting it outside. truthfully, i don't thinkit's a great candidate for an outside project, because number one it'sjust made with plywood. plywood is consisting of abunch of different plies, right. each one of those plieshas adhesive between it.
so if it's not like a marine grade ply, which mine wasn't, baltic birch. when it's outside, youhave a much greater chance of delamination where thoselittle layers just kind of, the adhesive gives up and then you start to get this like potato chipping effect and it peels apart. that's a factor, plus it'smade up of our own laminations we made between sectionsof plywood, right?
so each one of those glue joints is a potential fail point. now, i use screws to reinforce it, so it's not gonna come apart, but you still might have somesplitting and stuff like that from all those exposed plywood edges. so if i were to put thatspecific project outside, marine varnish is good, iwould probably paint it. i would paint it witha good outdoor, y'know,
highly weather resistant paint to create a nice filmover the entire thing like an impervious layerover the entire thing and then do the assembly, that might be one of the best ways to go. but i really think it'sprobably a project that's best for interior use. if you asked the questionbefore by the way and i don't get to it,
feel free to post it again. just don't post it 10 times, like once or twice is fine. rain 8183 says "what's aproject or furniture piece that you are worried orreticent to tackle?". well, the grandfather clockis one of those projects. like any time i do a whole new form factor or something that i've never done before like the maloof rocker
and like the grandfather clock, i've never... y'know the case is not the problem it's incorporating a veryspecific set of clockworks on the inside of the case is something i've never done before. so a lot of it is, y'know, doing mock ups, and making sure that it all works. so those are the things
that i tend to get alittle bit nervous about if it's new territory for me. and i think anybody's like that, right? you do something new it'sa little bit nerve wracking but you dive in head first, y'know, you figure it out, we're woodworkers, we can figure out howto get around problems, that's what we do. so, yeah.
words and wood art says "manm, carmona is theultimate booth babe". i agree with that. let's see... ya, definitely gonna need that faq. jared said "no disrespect,what happened to your neck, is it work related?". god i hope not, cause that would be scary. no, i had surgery.
i had half of my thyroidremoved a couple of weeks ago. "who's your favoriteyoutube wood worker?". uh, me. and beyond that, the rest,i don't have a favorite. mark says "i like thebench project as well, however it was a tad simpler project than i'm used to seeing from you, was that a requirement from honda?". yes mark, it actually was, the challenge,
y'know, which i tried to state clearly was that i had to build this project and intend it for like,as a weekend project. built in the back of a truck, using only plywood. under those restrictive confines, it's a little bit difficult to, y'know, build something super fancy, right. so, yes, it absolutely was,
i wouldn't call it arestriction from honda so much as a restrictionbased on the challenge we were presented with. so ya, it isn't my typical stuff, it's more along the lines of what we do for the woodworkersfighting cancer builds, where we try to make somethingmuch more approachable so more people can build it, and that was the idea with this.
this would have never worked out if i had to build,y'know, four woodwhisperer style projects, y'know,full scale projects. the whole thing had to befilmed in a 12 day period with people here watching me do it, right, so the only way we could get that done was to fit it into a verycompressed time frame and it would have been impossible if the projects were any more complicated
or using more significant materials than what you saw there. oh, y'know what, i mentionedthe maloof chair earlier. a little bit of trivia, on this bench, when i was shaping the seat pieces, one of the things we had to do was get a nice curvature that, y'know, is good on the lower back, so what i actually did wasi took my maloof templates
for the maloof rocking chair for those back pieces, and the curve on that seat as, y'know, it's obviously made out of plywood so we're not buildingsomething as comfortable as the maloof rocker buti took that curvature and used that to createthe curvature for the back on the seat pieces. so, in a way, it's maloof influenced.
which is kind of cool. but i figured, hey, if thatcurve works in a maloof rocker it's gonna work in something like this so it actually turned out tobe pretty darn comfortable. matt wants to know if there'sany updates from clock it. not yet. well i have an email that'swaiting for me to respond so i don't have any updates but we're just super busy today
so i haven't had time torespond to it just yet. gadis design company "is the festival domino worththe cost for making tables?". it's kind of impossible for me to tell you if it's worth the cost for you. if i were in the businessof making tables, which involved small to mediummortise and tenon joints, yes absolutely i would saythe domino is worth the cost. it's going to speed things up
and you know how it is ifyou run your own business time is money. so without a doubt, for me, it would definitely be a good investment. okay. sorry for these pauses, on a live thing, i gotta read to get these questions. okay, hubert matthew says "could i make a jointfor a box type console
with only glue end grain on side grain?". i would not, hubert. anytime you're gluingend grain to side grain, or end grain to anything really, it's not gonna work without joinery. end grain is extremelyporous, it sucks up the glue, so that by the time youput these things together the glue is gonna absorb into this piece and you're gonna havea glue starved joint.
so, generally speaking,anything involving end grain is gonna be a very weak joint, and that's why we usejoinery for those things. so look in terms of like more simple joinery youcan do rabbits and dados. certainly would be helpful to help make that a little bit stronger and certainly mortise andtenon joints are good too. but glue alone in the case of an end joint
to anything else isprobably not a good idea. alright, i'll take a few more and then we'll pinch it off today, let you guys get back to your lives. oh, you know what i listened to, let me give a shout out to those guys. listen to maker's hustle. i was stuck in a tattoochair for six hours yesterday getting work done on my right arm.
and i was able to bingethrough like the first i think they're up tolike five or six episodes. and it's a good maker audio podcast, so if you haven't listened tothat, definitely check it out, it's called maker's hustle. great selection, and i thinkmy favorite thing about it is the main host is bill... you even said something aboutpeople messing up your name, levosi is that right?
levolsi, is there an end, levolsi? anyway, you know who you are. he's a youtube woodworker maker guy and the good thing about it, what i really like about it is he has two other peoplewho i'd never heard of prior to the show and i think a lot of times, i mean i like the factthat everybody's doing
audio podcasts, it's great, but a lot of times it'speople we already know and people who we'vealready sort of experienced their woodworking perspective on things and how they do things. so when you get otherpeople you don't know and they're really intelligent and they've got a lot of good chemistry between one another
to me that's a winning formula. so if you get a chance,take a listen to it, it's, y'know, three peoplefrom three very different core areas but all doingsomething similar themed in terms of creating things and the different waysthat they approach it is really cool so check them out. it's maker's hustle. and hey, since we're talkingaudio, how about wood talk?
wood talk just recentlyjoined the patreon bandwagon. i've gone kicking andscreaming on this one cause i didn't wanna do it but i think it's time. so if you wanna support woodtalk through patreon you can. patreon.com/woodtalk. alright... yeah, there's not much to show on the arm it's all upper arm but it's covered
with a clear bandage right now so all of this shoulder and in here and the most painfulcrap inside here was done so it's still being worked on. what kind of music do i like. you know what, i like allkinds of music, jordan. i listen to jazz a lot of thetimes when i'm woodworking. i find it to be a verygood creatively stimulating and relaxing music.
so jazz is my creative music, but when i'm trying to get stuff done and move quickly, i listen to anything from,y'know, old school punk, to heavy metal to... i mean, mostly things in yourrock genre, heavy rock area. that tends to be where iland with my interests. "woodtalk is the boss", thanks b clark. "have you been workingout, hello mister bicep".
i actually have been working out. i was running all year long and cycling and i lost a whole bunch of weight and i didn't really need to lose weight i tend to be a pretty skinny guy. so now that it's too hot to run or cycle i've been going to the gym and i always feel likethere's a great meme out there with spongebob showinghim with his barbells
and he's got like stuffedanimals on either side and anyway i thought it way funny. that's how i see myself at the gym. wood and words, or sorry, words and wood. i generally don't cosplay, my wife has cosplayed once and we know a lot of cosplayers bill duran is a good friend over at punish props.
in fact, these are his stickers, there's one right there, good dude. he's a big time cosplayer so we know a lot of cosplayers but y'know, i haven'tdone any cosplay myself. the one thing i thoughti might do in a future like event like that if i cosplayed, is i think i could probably cosplay the mr. robot guy pretty well.
y'know, give me a hoodie and i'll give you like thebig creepy boulder eyes, bulging eyes, i think i'd be pretty good at that. road biking for me, ben. there's really, i mean,if i go out around my area it's all streets it's all flat so there isn't much opportunityfor mountain biking, i'd have to drive somewhereto go do mountain biking.
last question here, what's the best way tostraighten a two by four without removing very much material. well the best way is to startwith a straight two by four because you can only do so much. like it's either straight or it isn't. so a lot of times, two thingsi could do on a two by four if it's really long, i mighttry to use a long straight edge and use a circular saw to rip the edge,
because if you try to jointsomething like an eight footer on a small jointer it's very difficult to geta good result with that so unless the board is already pretty flat the joiner i find it to be very difficult so i'll use a circular saw or a track saw to do that initial rip and then i might go to the jointer to do a final pass and makesure it's dead straight
but the key is to start with something that'sstraight to begin with. if it's not straight, you're gonna be limitedby how much material you have to remove there's nothing you cando to make it less, right. it's either bent to a great degree or bent to a small degree. well my friends, this is alittle bit shorter than usual.
nicole says we have less thanone hour until the open house so i have to get the hizell out of hizere and have a great weekend and i guess we'll see you on friday. we'll try to do this moreconsistently time wise next week but again around nine to 10am pacific is probably when we'regonna be doing these things. alright, thank you somuch, have a great weekend and remember, i love you.
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